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tylern13

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Re: Decisions, decision
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2011, 02:22:29 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
i think he wont turn himself in because he got his life good. like it says he caught his jean valjean.
I think he will turn himself in, because it says that the day his name will reappear is the day his new life is gone,& even his new soul .

trevonteh4

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2011, 02:22:42 pm »
This is my argument on whether I think Jean Valjean will decide to do the right thing and go back to prison, or if he let an innocent man go to prison for his mistakes . I think that he will go back to prison and let the innocent man go. I think this because it says in the passage, “What He Wanted to Keep outside Had Come In, What He Wanted to Blind Was Looking Right at Him, His Conscience. His Conscience or God.” If his conscience is looking at him in the eyes, then it must be telling him the right thing to do is the right way to go. He started asking himself many questions in the passage, here are some examples of them, “Where am I?  Am I dreaming?  What have I heard?  Is it really true that I saw this Javert, and he talked to me this way?  Who can this Champ Mathieu be?  So he looks like me, does he?  When I think that yesterday I was so calm, and so far from suspecting anything!  What was I doing yesterday at this time?  What does this incident mean?  What can I do? This was his torment.  His brain had lost the power to retain its ideas.” His conscience was taking over his mind with what to do, so he would more than likely panic like he has in some other parts in the story. An example of him panicking from the passage is this, “He felt clouds of thunder and lightning gathering above his head.  Even while listening to Javert, his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag this Champ Mathieu out of prison, and go back in his place.” He will be panicked into doing the right thing because that’s what his conscience will tell him to do. Then after that he will listen to his conscience instead of ignoring the only option he has.
i disagree because if he did turn himself in he would have to go back to the chain gang and work until he died either that or they would put him in the electric chair when he got there
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2011, 02:22:48 pm »
I think that Valjean will not say anything to Javert and just go on doing what hes doing at the time but I also think that its deep in his mind that he should admit what he has done to Javert........... Hes confused on what to do.But I think he wont.

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2011, 02:23:31 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
I agree that he wont turn himself in.. But what if the guards at the prison notice that Champatheiu is not as strong as Jean Valjean? They might catch on to Jean Valjean.

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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2011, 02:23:45 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
I think that M. Madeleine will let the Champmathieu go to jail for him. I think this because in line one hundred twenty nine he says “all I have to do is leave things alone.” This leads more towards my point. During the reading it talks about how he would like this to be behind him. Form line one hundred forty six through one hundred fifty two it states and I quote “now I am safe I have no reason to be afraid it’s all over.” 
i agree
   From line one hundred thirty four through one hundred forty six I quote “at this very moment I have a substitute, that a man named Champmathieu has some bad luck.” In line thirty seven I quote “sacrificing the first virtue for the security of his name.”  For these reasons I believe the M. Madeleine will let Champmathieu go to jail.
okk william we got the same idea

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2011, 02:24:08 pm »
This is my argument on whether I think Jean Valjean will decide to do the right thing and go back to prison, or if he let an innocent man go to prison for his mistakes . I think that he will go back to prison and let the innocent man go. I think this because it says in the passage, “What He Wanted to Keep outside Had Come In, What He Wanted to Blind Was Looking Right at Him, His Conscience. His Conscience or God.” If his conscience is looking at him in the eyes, then it must be telling him the right thing to do is the right way to go. He started asking himself many questions in the passage, here are some examples of them, “Where am I?  Am I dreaming?  What have I heard?  Is it really true that I saw this Javert, and he talked to me this way?  Who can this Champ Mathieu be?  So he looks like me, does he?  When I think that yesterday I was so calm, and so far from suspecting anything!  What was I doing yesterday at this time?  What does this incident mean?  What can I do? This was his torment.  His brain had lost the power to retain its ideas.” His conscience was taking over his mind with what to do, so he would more than likely panic like he has in some other parts in the story. An example of him panicking from the passage is this, “He felt clouds of thunder and lightning gathering above his head.  Even while listening to Javert, his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag this Champ Mathieu out of prison, and go back in his place.” He will be panicked into doing the right thing because that’s what his conscience will tell him to do. Then after that he will listen to his conscience instead of ignoring the only option he has.

i think he will let the other guy go to jail because in line 32 it talks about how he has gone to the dark side of life

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2011, 02:24:25 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
I think he will let the other guy go to jail because he may have took something and Valjean does not want to give up his new life that easily.

tylern13

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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2011, 02:26:01 pm »
Well I think that Jean valjean or M. Madeleine is going to let Champmathieu go to prison and go on with his good old life by  the way he was speaking in the end of this section of the reading” What am I afraid of?  Why am I pondering these things?  Now I’m safe.  It’s all over” line 146 and 147.you can clearly see that he has no concern for Champmathieus well being, as jean valjean or M.Madeleine  what ever u want to call him said line 135 and 136 ” At this very moment, he had a substitute, that a man named Champmathieu had that bad luck”.
I think that he will go back to prison& let the innocent guy go, because he says he has a new soul& he has become an honest man. If this is true then he will admit to his mistakes& go to prison for his crimes .

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2011, 02:26:29 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
i think he wont turn himself in because he got his life good. like it says he caught his jean valjean.
i agree

trevonteh4

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2011, 02:27:21 pm »
I think Valjean will keep his mouth shut, even if it is for just a little bit. In the writing, around lines 54 and 55, he says, "Let's see! Let's see!" meaning he's gonna wait and see what happens.
not exactly he could be thinking about turning himself in maybe

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2011, 02:28:22 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
i think he wont turn himself in because he got his life good. like it says he caught his jean valjean.
I think he will turn himself in, because it says that the day his name will reappear is the day his new life is gone,& even his new soul .
No he wants to keep his life quiet

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 02:28:47 pm »
This is my argument on whether I think Jean Valjean will decide to do the right thing and go back to prison, or if he let an innocent man go to prison for his mistakes . I think that he will go back to prison and let the innocent man go. I think this because it says in the passage, “What He Wanted to Keep outside Had Come In, What He Wanted to Blind Was Looking Right at Him, His Conscience. His Conscience or God.” If his conscience is looking at him in the eyes, then it must be telling him the right thing to do is the right way to go. He started asking himself many questions in the passage, here are some examples of them, “Where am I?  Am I dreaming?  What have I heard?  Is it really true that I saw this Javert, and he talked to me this way?  Who can this Champ Mathieu be?  So he looks like me, does he?  When I think that yesterday I was so calm, and so far from suspecting anything!  What was I doing yesterday at this time?  What does this incident mean?  What can I do? This was his torment.  His brain had lost the power to retain its ideas.” His conscience was taking over his mind with what to do, so he would more than likely panic like he has in some other parts in the story. An example of him panicking from the passage is this, “He felt clouds of thunder and lightning gathering above his head.  Even while listening to Javert, his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag this Champ Mathieu out of prison, and go back in his place.” He will be panicked into doing the right thing because that’s what his conscience will tell him to do. Then after that he will listen to his conscience instead of ignoring the only option he has.
i disagree because if he did turn himself in he would have to go back to the chain gang and work until he died either that or they would put him in the electric chair when he got there
i dont think he will because he has a good life. he owns hies own beussness and everything.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 02:29:06 pm »
This is my argument on whether I think Jean Valjean will decide to do the right thing and go back to prison, or if he let an innocent man go to prison for his mistakes . I think that he will go back to prison and let the innocent man go. I think this because it says in the passage, “What He Wanted to Keep outside Had Come In, What He Wanted to Blind Was Looking Right at Him, His Conscience. His Conscience or God.” If his conscience is looking at him in the eyes, then it must be telling him the right thing to do is the right way to go. He started asking himself many questions in the passage, here are some examples of them, “Where am I?  Am I dreaming?  What have I heard?  Is it really true that I saw this Javert, and he talked to me this way?  Who can this Champ Mathieu be?  So he looks like me, does he?  When I think that yesterday I was so calm, and so far from suspecting anything!  What was I doing yesterday at this time?  What does this incident mean?  What can I do? This was his torment.  His brain had lost the power to retain its ideas.” His conscience was taking over his mind with what to do, so he would more than likely panic like he has in some other parts in the story. An example of him panicking from the passage is this, “He felt clouds of thunder and lightning gathering above his head.  Even while listening to Javert, his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag this Champ Mathieu out of prison, and go back in his place.” He will be panicked into doing the right thing because that’s what his conscience will tell him to do. Then after that he will listen to his conscience instead of ignoring the only option he has.
yes he was asking many questions but in lines129 he said all had to do was leave thingd alone nd in line 146 through 152 he was tlkin about how javert has caught his jean valjean nand he dosent have to worrie about  him any more.

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 02:30:08 pm »
This is my argument on whether I think Jean Valjean will decide to do the right thing and go back to prison, or if he let an innocent man go to prison for his mistakes . I think that he will go back to prison and let the innocent man go. I think this because it says in the passage, “What He Wanted to Keep outside Had Come In, What He Wanted to Blind Was Looking Right at Him, His Conscience. His Conscience or God.” If his conscience is looking at him in the eyes, then it must be telling him the right thing to do is the right way to go. He started asking himself many questions in the passage, here are some examples of them, “Where am I?  Am I dreaming?  What have I heard?  Is it really true that I saw this Javert, and he talked to me this way?  Who can this Champ Mathieu be?  So he looks like me, does he?  When I think that yesterday I was so calm, and so far from suspecting anything!  What was I doing yesterday at this time?  What does this incident mean?  What can I do? This was his torment.  His brain had lost the power to retain its ideas.” His conscience was taking over his mind with what to do, so he would more than likely panic like he has in some other parts in the story. An example of him panicking from the passage is this, “He felt clouds of thunder and lightning gathering above his head.  Even while listening to Javert, his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag this Champ Mathieu out of prison, and go back in his place.” He will be panicked into doing the right thing because that’s what his conscience will tell him to do. Then after that he will listen to his conscience instead of ignoring the only option he has.
Dude why would he go back to jail after working for 19 years? Would u want do go to jail again?

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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 02:31:31 pm »
If Jean Valjean turned himself in he would most likely die in prison.