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williamw37

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Re: Decisions, decision
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2011, 02:32:37 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.

Jean Valjean might go back to jail in the mans postion because he knows what its like to be in prison. i think this because in line 53 and 54 it says that his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag Champmathieu out of jail and go back into the place his rightful place.

antoined6

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Re: Decisions, decision
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2011, 02:33:48 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
i think he will not say anything about beacuase hes kinda good so i dnt think tht he will just through every thing away ;D

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Re: Decisions, decision
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2011, 02:33:59 pm »
This is my argument on whether I think Jean Valjean will decide to do the right thing and go back to prison, or if he let an innocent man go to prison for his mistakes . I think that he will go back to prison and let the innocent man go. I think this because it says in the passage, “What He Wanted to Keep outside Had Come In, What He Wanted to Blind Was Looking Right at Him, His Conscience. His Conscience or God.” If his conscience is looking at him in the eyes, then it must be telling him the right thing to do is the right way to go. He started asking himself many questions in the passage, here are some examples of them, “Where am I?  Am I dreaming?  What have I heard?  Is it really true that I saw this Javert, and he talked to me this way?  Who can this Champ Mathieu be?  So he looks like me, does he?  When I think that yesterday I was so calm, and so far from suspecting anything!  What was I doing yesterday at this time?  What does this incident mean?  What can I do? This was his torment.  His brain had lost the power to retain its ideas.” His conscience was taking over his mind with what to do, so he would more than likely panic like he has in some other parts in the story. An example of him panicking from the passage is this, “He felt clouds of thunder and lightning gathering above his head.  Even while listening to Javert, his first thought was to go, to run, to give himself up, to drag this Champ Mathieu out of prison, and go back in his place.” He will be panicked into doing the right thing because that’s what his conscience will tell him to do. Then after that he will listen to his conscience instead of ignoring the only option he has.

I disagree with you because in the selection read it states "And then he said to himself:  At this very moment, he had a substitute, that a man named Champmathieu had that bad luck." Which means he has no real reason to turn himself in. Just because his conscience tells him to do the right thing doesn't mean he will.

williamw37

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Re: Decisions, decision
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2011, 02:34:36 pm »
Post your argument as to what you think Valjean will choose to do.  Will he decide to turn himself in or will he choose to keep his mouth shut and let the other man go to prison?  Be sure to back up your argument with logic, quotes from the reading, and line reference numbers.
I agree that he wont turn himself in.. But what if the guards at the prison notice that Champatheiu is not as strong as Jean Valjean? They might catch on to Jean Valjean.

they might but they is a chance that he satys out of prison and he can stay away.

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Re: Decisions, decision
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2011, 02:35:17 pm »
I agree

williamw37

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2011, 02:36:30 pm »
Well I think that Jean valjean or M. Madeleine is going to let Champmathieu go to prison and go on with his good old life by  the way he was speaking in the end of this section of the reading” What am I afraid of?  Why am I pondering these things?  Now I’m safe.  It’s all over” line 146 and 147.you can clearly see that he has no concern for Champmathieus well being, as jean valjean or M.Madeleine  what ever u want to call him said line 135 and 136 ” At this very moment, he had a substitute, that a man named Champmathieu had that bad luck”.
I think that he will go back to prison& let the innocent guy go, because he says he has a new soul& he has become an honest man. If this is true then he will admit to his mistakes& go to prison for his crimes .

Tyler i agree with you he might go back to prison but i personly think he will let the other guy go to jail  because most of the evidence in the story lead to him staying out of jail.

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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2011, 02:36:06 pm »
i think he will turn himself in so that no inocent man will get in trouble for his own actions